More Atheist Battles - And They Think They're Right.

 

 

 

 

 

My apologies for not writing last night. I usually try to put something up between 8 PM and Midnight, but unfortunately I was side tracked by battling atheists for six hours, responding to 185 posts on the Huffington Post.

 

 

 

The story involves a Cranston, RI case where an atheist high school student objected to a historical banner where God was invoked. Naturally, any thought of God offends the atheist because they hate being reminded that they will stand before Him one day to give an account of themselves.

 

 

 

I cannot blame the atheist for they have been duped or brainwashed into believing that there is no God by others who do not believe. This has been done through the infiltration of NO GOD thinking in our public schools, which were started by Christians to ensure that their children could read the Bible.

 

 

 

Benjamin Rush said, "I cannot but suspect that the present fashionable practice of rejecting the Bible from our schools has originated with Deists. And they discover great ingenuity in this new mode of attacking Christianity. If the proceed in it, they will do more in half a century in extirpating our religion than Bolingbroke or Voltaire could have effected in a thousand years."

 

 

 

Our Founding Fathers believed that Bible training should begin early in the life of a child. Benjamin Rush, the father of American public education, said that if we reject our children in learning the Bible in schools, then in half a century (50 years), Christianity would be totally destroyed. Prayer (and God) was removed from US public schools in 1963 -- 49 years ago, and we see the result today. Christianity is not destroyed, but it appears that two entire generations of Americans are accepting that there is no God, simply because some small minority demands that we not recognize the Almighty.

 

 

 

What I find fascinating is that many of them repeat the same old tired cliches and come up with the most outlandish claims. Why one guy actually claimed that Conservatives have been banning books for over 25 years. I usually don't ask, but I am often asked to provide "proof" of things. In this instance I asked, and was sent tow links with "sources." I looked into these "sources" and after viewing a handful of randomly selected links determined that these were not "book banners" as alleged, but organizations that take exception to the assault on American History. One example is Abraham Lincoln. Most history books today give Lincoln a mere paragraph, yet provide B.J. Clinton (his name is Bill Jefferson, isn't it?) with three full pages. I for one believe that Lincoln deserves more page time than B.J. don't you?

 

 

Another claim is how "In God We Trust" was added in 1956, but I have found photographic evidence of US coins dated in 1864 with the inscription. As a matter of fact, the last minted coin without the motto was minted in 1866, although some gold coins did not contain the motto. 

 

 

One thing is clear. The atheist has no intention of stopping his efforts to remove God from everything, yet cries VICTIM when one objects and points out historical facts. When will some of you idiot Christians begin to realize this and join the fight -- respectfully of course.

Adam and Eve - A Religious Perspective

Interesting concept.

TOP IMAGE --- Christian Adam and Eve
Courtesy of china-holiday.com

BOTTOM IMAGE --- Islamic Adam and Eve
Courtesy of mvlturner.wordpress.com

REPOST - Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song praising 'Allah'

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/15/colorado-student-reportedly-quits-choir-over-islamic-song/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D136120#ixzz1mYEKpFQ9

A Colorado high school student says he quit the school choir after an Islamic song containing the lyric "there is no truth except Allah" made it into the repertoire.

James Harper, a senior at Grand Junction High School in Grand Junction, put his objection to singing "Zikr," a song written by Indian composer A.R. Rahman, in an email to Mesa County School District 51 officials. When the school stood by choir director Marcia Wieland's selection, Harper said, he quit.

"I don’t want to come across as a bigot or a racist, but I really don’t feel it is appropriate for students in a public high school to be singing an Islamic worship song,” Harper told KREX-TV. "This is worshipping another God, and even worshipping another prophet ... I think there would be a lot of outrage if we made a Muslim choir say Jesus Christ is the only truth."

But district spokesman Jeff Kirtland defended the decision to include the song. "Choral music is often devoted to religious themes. ... This is not a case where the school is endorsing or promoting any particular religion or other non-educational agenda. The song was chosen because its rhythms and other qualities would provide an opportunity to exhibit the musical talent and skills of the group in competition, not because of its religious message or lyrics," Kirtland told FoxNews.com in an email while noting that the choir "is a voluntary, after-school activity."

"Students are not required to participate, and receive no academic credit for doing so," he said.

At an upcoming concert, the choir is scheduled to sing an Irish folk song and an Christian song titled "Prayer of the Children," in addition to the song by Rahman.

"The teacher consulted with students and asked each of them to review an online performance of the selection with their parents before making the decision to perform the piece," Kirtland said, and members who object to the religious content of musical selections aren't required to sing them.

Rahman, who has sold hundreds of millions of records and is well-known in his homeland, has said the song is not intended for a worship ceremony. He told FoxNews.com in a written statement that the song, composed for the move "Bose, the Forgotten Hero," is about "self-healing and spirituality."

 

 

Rahman, who has sold hundreds of millions of records and is well-known in his homeland, has said the song is not intended for a worship ceremony. He told FoxNews.com in a written statement that the song, composed for the move "Bose, the Forgotten Hero," is about "self-healing and spirituality."

"It is unfortunate that the student in Colorado misinterpreted the intention of the song," Rahman said. "I have long celebrated the commonalities of humanity and try to share and receive things in this way. While I respect his decision for opting out, this incident is an example of why we need further cultural education through music.”

The song is written in Urdu, but one verse translates to "There is no truth except Allah" and "Allah is the only eternal and immortal." Although the choir sang the original version, Wieland distributed translated lyrics.

Grand Junction High School Principal Jon Bilbo referred questions to Kirtland.

FoxNews.com's Joshua Rhett Miller contributed to this story.

COMMENTARY:

One should notice how the school district officials are quick to defend the use of the song in this case. Thank God that it wasn't Christmas songs chosen to be played by the band at a performance as was done with the band of my Alma Mater, Columbia High School in Maplewood/South Orange, NJ a few years ago. You can obviously see how they don't tolerate the intolerant by actually being intolerant themselves.

 

 

In my town when schools have music programs, you will get a few "cultural" songs and the obligatory Jewish favorites, but you wont get anything Christmas, (even the secular songs). Why not? Why does society as represented by school and government officials so despise the Christian religion? Simple. Because Christianity claims that the only way to God is through Jesus Christ, and that scares them more than anything else. 

 

 

I just wonder why people who don't believe in God are always so interested in arguing with those who do. Honestly atheists. My job is to tell you that Jesus loves you and dies for you. You can either accept that or reject it. It's your choice and I have no interest in what you do or don't do. This is why we call it a personal decision.

 

Sick Verses? Really??

“Baby Thrower” - Gustav Viegeland - Vigeland Park - Oslo

As a result of a health issue, I have been unable to work at my "day job" since early October, 2011. I am on medication which regulates certain enzyme levels in the blood and I have discovered that one of the side effects reported was the loss of memory of words, and I have been experiencing this side effect. I know the words when speaking, but if you and I were having a conversation, I would come to a stop, say the word I think belongs, and then realize that it wasn't the right word, and have to search my "memory banks" to find the right word.

Because of this condition, I have been doing a lot of reading and research just to keep my mind sharp and focused, and I seem to be getting back to normal because of this activity. Sometime I find interesting things to look at but sometimes I come across some things that just don't make any sense.

I have discovered that atheists who do not believe in God spend a lot of time arguing why they don't believe in God, and have concluded that this is due to insecurity in their own "non" belief. Once source wisely observed that atheists while engaged in marital activities most likely shout out "Oh scientific method" and "Math." If you don't believe in an imaginary figure (as they put it) why waste one's time?

I have also discovered that some people post things on the Internet that are utterly untrue or are slanted in such a way that it would dissuade you from your own beliefs if your weren't paying attention. These people know just enough about the Bible to be dangerous. I'll give you one example below.

I came across a web site (just a page with no identifiers) called SICK BIBLE VERSES. Naturally, there was a plethora of ambiguities and erroneous assertions (see, big words, mind working) which covered just about everything negative in the Bible with the exception of nose picking which cannot be found there. It's funny how the anti-God people always seem to focus on negatives. I plan on ripping the entire page apart in the future, but right now let's focus on one specific example, that I picked out randomly and compared what was written, to what IS written in the pages of the Bible.

--- "SICK VERSES" said -----------

MORE BABY KILLING
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” --Psalms 137:9
The book of Psalms is considered by many the most beautiful book of the bible, but for a frightening  flash of a second - invision (should be envision, but I'm not the expert like the author is) the above verse.

--- End of "SICK VERSES" quote ---------

I looked up Psalms 137:9 and the Bible does say what the "SICK" person posted. Indeed the verse says "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” So I do the next logical thing in seeking out the facts. I expand the passage to read it in context (but even out of context one can see the erroneous misinterpretation of the original 1611 English King James version of the Bible). English has changed, but I argue that it has not changed THAT much.


I found that I was correct in MY reading of the text, and not to drag this out too long, the modern interpretation of the KJV reads like this... "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Obviously a mental disorder blocked the "SICK" person from understanding that this verse actually meant that an ENEMY was happy when they took YOUR infants and smashed them against the rocks and not that YOU were happy to smash YOUR OWN infants against the rocks. I think that would be considered a late term abortion, but don't quote me on that.

Okay, so now I do more and compare various translations of the verse and realize that I too seem to be in error. Okay, I blame the medication, remember? I had read the context with a flawed presumption. I realized that the Israelites were captives of the Babylonian Empire and that this Psalm (or song as they were sung) came from the perspective of a people who had their city destroyed and were carted off into captivity.

The context of Psalm 137 for this purpose begins at verse 7 and reads like this... [[ My remarks are in brackets]].

 ⁷Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof. [[Rase is now spelled razed means demolished or destroyed to the citys' foundation. This implies that the Israelites detest the Babylonians for this.]]
 
 ⁸O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. [[Obviously the implication is that when they overcome the captivity, that they should expect payback. At this point in human history, payback was not only expected, it was demanded.]]
 
 ⁹Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. [[The implication is that they will be happy (and in some translations even blessed) who takes and kills her little ones. I cannot refute the line, but if you consider that the army of Babylon was the "children" referenced, well it makes sense. Again, it's payback.]]

History records that the Babylonians allowed the Israelites to return to Judah, and that the Israelites did not engage in a war to escape captivity. The Babylonians by 4 royal decrees actually paid for the reconstruction of the Temple. One decree was postponed due to an investigation, but then reasserted by the Babylonian King, so in theory, while the captives yearned to escape and give the Babylonians a bloody nose, it did not actually work out that way, so no babies were harmed in the making of my post.

Obviously, when one actually sits down and does the actual research into the kook interpretations of the Bible, one can honestly disprove every allegation of the concept of an "Evil" God, but let us for the sake of argument assume that God is indeed evil. Would it not still make sense that if He created man, that he could do with man what He wished? While we can see that interpreting the Bible can be challenging especially when people , if one takes the time and does a little digging, it all comes together in a nice neat package. Sure, my original assessment was incorrect as well, but after the other facts came together I wasn't too far off. 

You Can't Make This Up (Nor Take It Out)

Today while reading the news of the day there was a news story about this effeminate young man who works for American Airlines who decided to dress up like a woman and post videos criticizing his employer, and was under threat of being fired for his activities.

Naturally with a story like this you get people that come out of the wood work and make the erroneous claims of free speech. This ignorance comes right out of US Public Education. We are not free to say what we wish. Free Speech protects you from retaliation if you are speaking against the government. It doesn't protect you from your employer, or if you decide to slander or libel someone.

People then begin to post replies, and when I see errors, I point them out.

POSTER 1 wrote:

"One of the great LIBERAL documents of the world is the DECLARATIO­N OF INDEPENDEN­CE."

I replied with:

“How could the Declaration­ of Independence be considered a Liberal Document if is has GOD written all over it? Just wondering.”

POSTER 2 wrote:

". . .er, it DOESN"T have God written all over it. Try reading it someday, hon."

To which I replied...

"From the Declaration of Independence...

"the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD"

"all men are CREATED equal"

"endowed by their CREATOR"

"appealing to the SUPREME JUDGE of the world"

"the protection of DIVINE Providence"

Sounds like I read it and actually looked at ALL of the words. Perhaps you should read the REAL Declaration instead of that Liberal abridged edition you obviously have."

Why do they even try?

POSTER 2 replies again!:

"Please note that at no time did the writers of the Declaratio­n of Independen­ce make reference to the God of Israel, or to Buddha or any other deity. They only acknowledg­ed that they do believe in a deity, and by making general reference, that others have other beliefs in who that deity is. At the time period, this was a tremendous leap from the norm. But whether you like it or not, the founding fathers were (most of them) a deeply religious people. They found it within themselves to admit that other people had different beliefs and tried to write a document that would include everyone. If you lack a belief in the divine, that's your choice. Tear a page from our forefather­'s book and stop stomping on the beliefs of others. "

I'm still scratching my head wondering what is trying to be conveyed to me.

NJ State Senate Passes Same Sex Marriage

The Bible tells us that the time will come (and I believe that it HAS come) when evil shall be considered good, and good shall be considered evil.

The New Jersey State Senate passed Same Sex Marriage, and now we await the actions of the State Assembly. If it passes there, then Governor Chris Christie has already indicated that he will, and properly so, veto the legislation.

The Democrats in Trenton did not dare bring this up when they controlled the Senate, Assembly and Governorship, and now they bring it up in an election year. Why? Perhaps they feared the voters. Hey! FEAR BOYS AND GIRLS! It is nothing but a political ploy, plain and simple and the Gay community should be incensed at that fact alone! The Democrats knew that the Governor would veto the legislation and all this is going to do is give the Democrats cover.

They will come out and tell the LGBT community how they tried, but that evil fat Governor of ours did them in. BULL! They knew it wouldn't go anywhere and they are playing all of us for fools.

The Senate thought this legislation was so important -- more important than high property taxes, high unemployment, crime, and everything else that they made it their number one priority. Well Mr and Miss NJ Politician, your days may be numbered.

One of the reasons we are told that Same Sex Marriage in the Garden State is necessary is because there are problems in the Civil Union law. Okay, FIX WHAT'S BROKEN IN THAT LAW!

It's not a difficult concept, even for Democrat politicians to understand.

I have asked a simple question on several occasions on a certain news site that allows replies, and instead of getting the usual "hate mail" my in box has been strangely silent. It's a simple question and I am still awaiting a reply.

"WHEN DOES IT END?" If Same Sex Marriage passes in NJ, will that be it, or can we expect more to be demanded? No one has the guts to answer this because I bet there will be more.

I can't wait for Mormons to start demanding polygamy to be legalized, or those wishing to marry family members, or even those "animal lovers" out there. What's next? Why won't any of you answer?!

What We Realy Need.